(Alguns) temas para debate
Magda Pucci
1 de Outubro de 2007
Nossas idéias são muitas, talvez não consigamos dar conta de tudo o que queremos discutir, mas já apontamos algumas vertentes principais que estão na ordem do dia.
TROCANDO OS EIXOS - Os binômios centro-periferia, culto-popular, cultural-comercial, underground-stablishment, street-corporativo são antigos mas continuam a operar nos dias de hoje muito mais amplificados, evidentemente. Assim como o hip hop invadiu eventos culturais voltados para a o público de classe média¹, o funk carioca, cuja expressão foi fixada em territórios do morro, agora, é tocado nas casas noturnas das capitais do país para entretenimento de uma jovem elite. Até que ponto a periferia está fora e o centro está dentro? As fronteiras entre centro e periferia se tornam cada vez mais tênues. Ivan Fontanari apresenta sua pesquisa de campo na cena eletrônica dos bairros da periferia de São Paulo, tendo entrevistado alguns DJs de techno e drum & bass e observado várias de suas festas. O caso do DJ Henry Jay nos parece adequado para pensarmos os fluxos contemporâneos de pessoas e músicas.
PURO OU DILUÍDO? INVENTANDO TRADIÇÕES - Hobsbawn nos apresenta um texto interessantíssimo sobre o kilt escocês que todos nos acreditamos que é a mais pura tradição daquele país, verdadeiro símbolo nacional junto à gaita de foles. No entanto, nas suas pesquisas, ele descobriu que aquela saia de lã xadrez é moderna; a vestimenta foi inventada, no final do séc. XVIII e início do XIX, para substituir a saia de couro, considerada “indício de barbarismo, o distintivo de montanheses velhacos, indolentes e chantagistas, que representavam para a Escócia civilizada e histórica mais um inconveniente do que uma ameaça”². Além disso, os escoceses, tentando se livrar da influência irlandesa, trataram da elaboração artificial de novas tradições das Terras Altas que foram apresentadas como legítimas, originais e muito antigas. Até mesmo uma literatura de caráter escocês foi forjada por Sir Macpherson em cumplicidade com o ministro James Macpherson que forjaram documentos para fundamentar uma nova história do país! Ariano Suassuna ficaria até suave diante de tal malogro!
Com a difusão da cultura popular nos editais de cultura, observamos Coco Raízes de Arcoverde, Mestre Salustiano e Jongo da Serrinha ganhando uma certa repercussão na mídia, mas há quem torça o nariz para tal situação, pois segundo o mestre Darcy do Jongo da Serrinha, foram necessárias algumas mudanças na performance do grupo para se adequar às apresentações para gente de fora da comunidade, mas o “produto” oferecido tem o carimbo da autenticidade, do verdadeiro jongo, do original… Está certo ou errado? Tal atitude seria aprovada ou não pelos pesquisadores?
Vemos também a música influenciada por aspectos regionais com viés contemporâneo como o Nação Zumbi, a cantora mexicana Lila Downs, o coletivo cigano Balkan Beat Box entre outros. Não sendo pertencentes diretos das comunidades, estes artistas seriam apropriadores indevidos de temas do imaginário popular? Estariam eles usurpando valores nacionais em prol de um enriquecimento pessoal?
Que mudanças ocorrem quando a cultura é institucionalizada como o Carnaval carioca e a Axé music? O jornalista TTCatalão nos aponta “a velha caricatura do “puro” e o “diluído”“. E isso nos faz pensar no desespero dos puristas que temem que seu “objeto de estudo acadêmico” seja maculado. E quanto às mudanças fica aquela incômoda sensação da “macumba pra turista” na velha linha formol do folclore para o consumo ralo de exotismo do brilho fácil como purpurina desbotada. E para esquentar mais o debate, Luciana Mesquita entrevista a “Velha do Cerrado”, uma “personagem da cultura popular” que nos instiga a pensar a própria pesquisa, questionando as nossas perguntas. Será que não está na hora de revisar esses conceitos? Que tal deixar um pouco de lado os jargões acadêmicos para pensarmos todos juntos? O antropólogo Paulo Müller também contribuirá para pensarmos juntos essa questão.
A BOSSA E O TANGO PLUS ELETRÔNICA - A bossa nova, que comemora 50 anos, vem ganhando nova roupagem ao se fundir com a música eletrônica. Quem diria que o suingue carioca daria certo com a máquina “durinha” da eletrônica? E o mais interessante é que ela surgiu de dentro da cena independente, isto é, não foi uma imposição de gravadoras internacionais. O primeiro CD que apresentou essa idéia foi o de Bebel Gilberto produzido de forma independente pelo Suba, produtor sérvio, que veio morar no Brasil. Porta aberta; entraram Cibelle, Kátia B, Bossacucanova que ganham a simpatia do público do exterior. Será que a bossa, por ser de origem híbrida (a famosa mistura do samba com o jazz) nasceu para ser apreciada lá fora mesmo? Acácio Piedade abordará o conceito de fricção de musicalidades nesse caso. Se Ramón Pelinski topar, trataremos de comparar o percurso da bossa nova com o tango nômade que ele vem pesquisando há anos. E daí, entram os coletivos Gotan Project e Bajofondo como expoentes dessa nova tendência.
OPERAÇÃO INTRAMUROS – Aqui falaremos do papel da Etnomusicologia nos dias de hoje. Ramón Pelinski nos propõe um olhar revelador sobre a pesquisa em música fazendo uma reavaliação de sua trajetória e dos pressupostos traçados pela academia. Vejo quase sempre um preconceito dos pesquisadores com as formas atuais da música, porque são consideradas diluídas, poluídas de intervenções externas. Proponho um desafio: como levar essa pesquisa para o mundo real? Vamos implodir os muros da academia?
O JAPÃO DA LIBERDADE – Vamos abordar aqui a presença musical das músicas dos povos migrantes no Brasil. Vemos uma série de grupos e associações de musica japonesa, italiana, árabe, húngara, portuguesa, alemã, espanhola promovendo suas formas musicais, mas não consigo vê-las mesclando-se aos elementos brasileiros. São guetos que mantém fragmentos de uma cultura de um determinado período, congeladas no tempo. O Japão da Liberdade é um Japão que não existe mais. Será que houve um “processo de fricção de musicalidades”³? Alice Satomi nos fala sobre a presença da música japonesa em São Paulo baseando-se nas suas pesquisas de mestrado e doutorado. Teremos também a colaboração da pesquisadora Ana Maria Kiefer que produziu o CD “Cancioneiro da Imigração”. Ela, talvez, possa nos apresentar elementos do que ela percebeu nas suas andanças por essa metrópole para esquentar a discussão.
SAMBA NO MUSEU - O samba, já de origem miscigenada, ganha o status de Patrimônio Cultural da Humanidade. O que significa isso? Carlos Sandroni, responsável pelo projeto junto ao IPHAN, nos contará como foi o processo de tombamento do Samba do Recôncavo na Bahia. Em que medida os acervos e registros podem não apenas preservar a tradição mas também dar um sentido histórico a ela?
WORLD MUSIC, ESSE FENÔMENO TÃO MAL COMPREENDIDO – A mídia brasileira insiste em afirmar que a World Music é um engodo, que ela existe para homogeneizar o local, globalizando tudo e todos. Essa é a primeira impressão, mas isso não é bem verdade. Vamos analisar alguns casos em que a World Music se apresentou como uma porta de entrada (com direito a tapete vermelho) para artistas do chamado Terceiro Mundo e como participar desse nicho significou uma melhora significativa na vida daqueles músicos. Paulo Müller irá discutir alguns aspectos referentes ao assunto e nós pretendemos colaborar com exemplos que temos tocado no Planeta Som, de “formas sadias” da World Music. Há, sim, gente de todo o mundo criando e recriando músicas interessantíssimas a cada dia. O movimento da “periferia do mundo” para o centro não pára. São mais de 300 festivais de World Music na Europa em um ano sempre com a presença maciça de cantores africanos, árabes e latinos. O que isso significa? Há problemas? Há estereótipos? Sim, com certeza, mas vamos tentar observar esse panorama com mais cuidado checando as informações e avaliando caso a caso. Paulo Müller nos propõe analisar o caso do grupo sul-africano Ladysmith Black Mambazo; o do músico malinês Ali Farka Touré, considerado o blueseiro de Mali, assim o polêmico caso do Deep Forest que se utilizou de gravações dos pigmeus africanos.
¹ Herschman, Micael,. O Funk e o Hip-Hop invadem a cena. Ed. UFRJ, 2005
² Hobsbawn, E. Ranger, T. A invenção das tradições.Paz e Terra. 2006. São Paulo.
³ Conceito trazido por Acácio Piedade, um dos nossos debatedores.
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14-11-2007, 8:11
SUGESTÃO :
AULA DE MÚSICA NAS ESCOLAS ESTADUAIS, POR QUE NÃO ?
14-11-2007, 10:27
Olá Maria Angela,
Esse é um assunto que já foi amplamente discutido e me parece que vai dar certo a emenda que estão pedindo no Congresso. Agora é esperar e ver se será mesmo aprovada. Eu sou totalmente a favor, desde que haja professores com boa formação, porque o que viamos antes era uma baboseira em musica que nao tinha nada a ver com a proposta atual da Educação Musical.
Abraços e obrigada pela sugestão
Magda
14-11-2007, 14:33
Maria Angela,
Em breve a Magali Kleber deve enviar um texto relacionado a esse tema. Estamos aguardando ansiosamente!
abraços,
André
28-11-2007, 8:27
Olá Maria Angela,
realmente esse tema é pauta do dia!
Será votado o Porjeto de Lei 330/2006 no Senado Federal dia 04 de dezembro próximo.
Estarei la e assim que acontecer estareia enviando noticias e os encaminhamentos.
Se positivo teremos uma discussao nacional sobre a implementação dessa Lei. E a educação brasileira ganhará com tudo isso. É o que esperamos.
Tem o site http://www.senado.gov.br/sf/atividade/comissoes/consComPerm.asp?com=1357 onde se pode conseguir o texto do Projeto de Lei. Também posso enviar em PDF se vc quiser, ok?
Abraços e vamos aguardar dia 04 de dez!
Magali
27-12-2007, 9:58
Que maravilha não ? Eu vi mesmo o Projeto de Lei da senadora Roseana Sarney.
Que tenhamos música nas escolas e que façamos um programa básico legal como sugestão, mas que tenhamos liberdade de conhecer a clientela e introduzir o que for necessário como conteúdo pra eles, como experiência, como criação. O que não podemos é fechar o conteúdo em algo estritamente obrigatório e nos esquecermos da diversidade brasileira e do ato de criar.
27-12-2007, 9:58
aGRADEÇO SE PUDEREM ME ENVIAR NOTÍCIAS PARA O EMAIL
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FELIZ 2008 !!!
03-01-2008, 3:57
6/12/2007 - 20h35
Músicos cubanos formalizam pedido de asilo nesta segunda-feira
De Angela Lacerda
Em Recife
Os músicos cubanos Miguel Angel Nuñez Costafreda, Arodis Verdecia Pompa e Juán Alcides Diaz se apresentarão na tarde desta segunda-feira na Polícia Federal, no Recife, para formalizar o pedido de asilo político ao governo brasileiro.
“O ministro da Justiça, Tarso Genro, prometeu o salvo conduto aos músicos”, antecipou o deputado federal Raul Jungmann (PPS), depois de conversa telefônica com o ministro.
O visto de permanência dos três no País expirou na sexta-feira, mesmo dia em que o advogado José Antonio Ferreira foi à Polícia Federal com uma procuração dos músicos solicitando o asilo, sob a alegação de “perseguição política e ameaça de vida”. “Tecnicamente o pedido foi feito”, assegura ele.
“Mas o procedimento burocrático exige que os solicitantes digam, de viva voz, que querem o asilo”. Por isso, foi orientado a retornar na segunda-feira com os cubanos.
De acordo com o advogado, os músicos estavam “apavorados” com medo de serem deportados para Cuba, já que o juiz Gabriel Queiroz, da 6ª Vara da Justiça Federal, negou ontem o habeas corpus preventivo impetrado pelo deputado federal Raul Jungmann (PPS) em favor dos três. Segundo o juiz, eles estavam irregulares no Brasil, já que o visto havia expirado no dia anterior. A decisão surpreendeu Jungmann, que acreditava que os músicos tinham um visto de permanência de 90 dias.
Novo caso
Para evitar uma deportação pelo governo brasileiro - a exemplo do que ocorreu com os boxeadores Guillermo Rigondeaux e Erislandy Lara, que não embarcaram de volta a Cuba em julho, durante os jogos do Pan, no Rio - o deputado telefonou para o ministro da Justiça, Tarso Genro. “O ministro já sabia do caso, disse que iria viajar, mas que deixaria o secretário nacional de Justiça, Romeu Tuma Júnior, encarregado do assunto”, afirmou.
Em um novo telefonema, desta vez com Tuma Júnior, o deputado teve a promessa de que o Brasil dará salvo-conduto para os cubanos. “Pode dizer publicamente que eles não serão presos nem serão coagidos, sabemos que eles fizeram o pedido (de asilo, pelo advogado) dentro do prazo”, disse Tuma a Jungmann.
Os músicos integram o grupo musical Los Galanes, que veio a Pernambuco para seis apresentações em um período de sete dias. Eles chegaram ao Recife no dia cinco e não compareceram ao Aeroporto dos Guararapes, na manhã de quarta-feira, como previsto. Viajaram de volta a Cuba os outros três membros do grupo e o representante do Instituto Cubano de Amizade entre os Povos (ICAP), Salvador Santana, que os acompanhou.
Costafreda, Pompa e Diaz são músicos populares com base erudita, casados e com filhos. José Antonio Ferreira disse que depois de conseguirem asilo no Brasil, eles vão lutar para trazer as famílias. “Eles disseram que em Cuba ninguém sabe o que aconteceu com os dois atletas deportados, ninguém tem notícia deles”, destacou, ao explicar a angústia dos seus clientes.
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